Melanie's Marvelous Measles

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 02/10/2015 at 09:45 • Filed to: None

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Why not vaccinate your kids? Because having the measles is GOOD FOR YOU! It's NATURAL! Yes! This is a real book, written by a woman who "devotes her life to educating people about vaccine dangers and supporting families in their natural health choices. She has the support of many natural therapists and natural-minded doctors." Here's the blurb from the cover:

Melanie's Marvelous Measles was written to educate children on the benefits of having measles and how you can heal from them naturally and successfully. Often today, we are being bombarded with messages from vested interests to fear all diseases in order for someone to sell some potion or vaccine, when, in fact, history shows that in industrialized countries, these diseases are benign and, according to natural health sources, beneficial to the body.

Having raised three children vaccine free and childhood disease free, I have experienced many times when my children's vaccinated peers succumb to the childhood diseases they were vaccinated against. Surprisingly, there were times when my unvaccinated children were blamed for their peers' sickness. Something which is just not possible when they didn't have the diseases at all.

You can get your copy today over on !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . While you're waiting for your credit card to process, be sure to peruse the reader reviews and reader images. There's some good stuff there, such as:

My infant daughter went blind after contracting measles from an unvaccinated child, and yet there's no braille version of this wonderful book for me to give her someday to explain to her how awesome the disease that took her sight away is.

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As a carpenter who specializes in itty bitty coffins I can't say enough good things about this book, my customer base has been growing at an epidemic rate!

Money Hustard > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:47

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These people suck so effing much. It blows my mind how many people run their lives off unfounded beliefs and junk science.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:48

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Ugh, anti-science people. There's no difference between these idiots and climate change deniers, flat earthers, and creationists. It seems like half of the people my age buys into this shit.

ttyymmnn > Money Hustard 02/10/2015 at 09:48

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And they are dangerous to society as a whole. It's not a personal choice when your selfishness endangers my child.

mcseanerson > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:49

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This is like the new Scientology. Make people believe something completely insane with zero backing and charge them money for it. If I had no conscience I'd be all over this market.

Meatcoma > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:50

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My wife has a friend and her and her husband are both anti-vaxxers and they are also idiots.

Money Hustard > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:51

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Even if it's just endangering theirs. How many kids are suffering these truly horrific diseases just because their parents "read it in a book" somewhere is infuriating. The kids don't make this decision, it's like parents not using a seatbelt because they believe the car accidents will make their kids tougher.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:52

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I've been over trying to play nice with them for a couple of years now. I have no respect for this belief. It's not okay to agree to disagree.

CB > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:52

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According to Wikipedia, the region of the Americas in 2005 only had 19 reported cases of measles, which then went up to 3,100 in 2014, the only area in the world to go up in reported cases. Between 1855 and 2005, it apparently killed 200 million worldwide ( source ).

But no, measles is a good thing .

Fuck these people.

Tapas > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:53

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Ok this may be irrelevant but I have a friend who's a spot boy on the set of the Walking Dead, so I have a bit of the plot for you.

For those who would rather watch the episodes as they come out - Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!

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In this season of the Walking Dead.....Grimes and Carl are cornered into an underground lab.

They've been hiding, dodging and fighting zombies for daays now. That runs for a few very intense episodes.

Grimes finally finds the vaccine to cure the plague, which would render the recipient immune to zombies - but he doesn't give it to Carl because of the high Mercury content. And of course, its not natural and conflicts with the family's Paleo diet (they thought they'd make the best of the circumstances, I guess)....

Biased Plies > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:55

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Ow, my brain. Those reviews are gold though.

505Turbeaux > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:55

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the comments on that book are so funny. But it really is no laughing matter. I want to punch the book and the author right in the face

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:56

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The right to swing your fist ends where my face begins. Even the most ardent minarchists/libertarians would agree with this.

Unfortuately, the anti-vaxxers don't subscribe to this view. Their view is that it is your job to get out of the way of the swinging fist.

However, since infectious diseases play by different rules, I think isolation of their kids in bubbles might be a good idea.

vondon302 > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 09:59

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Wow I'm pretty sure the human race is doomed after seeing this.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:01

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Oh the stupid, I can't even. How could she say diseases are benign? Those terms are contradictions! Unless she just means that most diseases are not cancer. And has she never heard of an asymptomatic carrier (don't know if that's the right term)? Just like someone with HIV can carry and transmit that for a very long time without showing a single symptom. People like her are why Ebola made a comeback last year in Africa, after it had been at an all time low.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:02

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I should point out that anyone joining in the current "VACCINES!" controversy is playing into the hands of some very cynical political manipulation. Another "Republicans Are Anti-Science!" smear artificially introduced into the public discourse. Are you aware that both Hillary and Barack gave dissembling Rand Paulish non-answers on the vaccine topic back in 2008? I suspect you're not. I suspect you're also not aware that the highest incidences of non-vaccination are, straight on down the line, in conclaves of the left and not the right. Rand Paul trying to court (or not to un-court) his father's chemtrail types *when pressed* has nothing to do with anti-vaxxing's popularity on the right overall, because it's not a right and left issue.

For the record, I absolutely support vaccination, but via condition as it has always been for participating in the public arena, at the state level. Public schools, public service, private school voluntary requirement, etc. Pretending that there should suddenly be some federal mandate in which the federal government gets to state nationwide which vaccines every citizen must receive, I'm a little more leery on - not because of the efficacy of common vaccines, but because of the removal of agency. Many on the right have that same leeriness, and to portray it as equivalent even in part to the Jenny McCarthys is not only slanderous, but deeply offensive. It is cheap, deceitful, and morally bankrupt to make that argument, particularly when taken in a full hypocrisy regarding previous statements which of course is why the far left is doing so. It doesn't take a lot of information to know vaccines are the correct choice - it takes a lot more to know when one is being played. Cynically.

jariten1781 > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:03

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I'm waiting for the followup.

Samantha's Stupendous Smallpox.

BigBlock440 > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 02/10/2015 at 10:03

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Wat? How does someone get you sick that doesn't have the disease? And if they did, why would you get sick if you were vaccinated? Like ebola, you're only contagious if you have it.

BigBlock440 > CB 02/10/2015 at 10:04

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That's what happens when you let millions of "undoccumenteds" in

Steve Zissou > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:06

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It's funny if she's saying that measles is a good thing because it means your body builds up an immunity to it after that...BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE VACCINE WOULD ALSO DO AND YOU WOULD BE AT MUCH LOWER OVERALL RISK.

Well, not so much funny as disheartening.

PS. Spread this all over the internet.

CKeffer > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:09

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So it's basically an idiotic book, written by an idiot who has the support of other idiots, someof whom masquerade as smart people, that furthers an idiotic trend based around fearmogering and a single discredited scientific study. Got it.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Steve Zissou 02/10/2015 at 10:10

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Zones with high incidences of non-vaccination map almost identically 1:1 with locations with a Whole Foods.

Sn210 > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:11

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stay tuned for the sequels Polio Polly and Bubonic Bobby

davedave1111 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/10/2015 at 10:12

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Nice trolling, well done. 7/10 at least, just because that's relatively subtle.

ttyymmnn > jariten1781 02/10/2015 at 10:20

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charliesierra > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 10:21

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Cajun Ginger > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 10:29

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do you know what a carrier is? They have no symptoms of a disease but are contagious.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Steve Zissou 02/10/2015 at 10:30

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One of my favorite responses to anti-vaxxers. There was a good page floating around for a while with other similar unrelated graphs being used to show the flaw in such infographics.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 10:33

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Mexico has a higher vaccination rate than the US for measles.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 10:35

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Not everyone who carries a disease contracts it. You can still incubate a virus and spread it without symptoms. There are also many people who are immunocompromised who can't get vaccinated like cancer patients or people with immunosuppressive diseases.

BigBlock440 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/10/2015 at 10:36

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Not everyone comes from Mexico

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 10:37

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According to the DHS, the vast majority (62%) do. I looked at the statistics for other Central American countries, and apart from Guatemala, they all have us beat.

BigBlock440 > Cajun Ginger 02/10/2015 at 10:38

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If there are that many people out there that are immune to it, it wouldn't be a problem. Also, they would have had to contract the disease to begin with.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/10/2015 at 10:41

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There is a huge difference: the climate change deniers, flat earthers, and creationists don't kill children with their beliefs.

Cajun Ginger > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 10:43

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Carriers don't know they have it. The problem is that there are fewer people immune because of people who don't understand science or believe in science? Also babies aren't vaccinated against measles until they are a year old.

The antivaxxers are taking herd immunity below the point where it works. So there aren't that many people immune anymore in some communities.

spanfucker retire bitch > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 11:14

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Not everyone can get vaccinated. There are those that are legitimately, medically incapable of being vaccinated and those people rely on Herd Immunity to protect them.

But with these retarded Anti-Vaxxers, herd immunity levels are dropping dangerously low. There are even some schools on California and Texas with herd immunity levels below 80%. Most health professionals agree that herd immunity is risky below 95% and dangerous below 90%.

spanfucker retire bitch > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 11:18

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Yes! This is a real book

T5Killer > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/10/2015 at 11:29

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Even worse are the Chemtrail folks.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > BigBlock440 02/10/2015 at 12:31

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Right, because viruses are only transmitted by people who are symptomatic...

In any case, a vaccine is not a foolproof way to guarantee that you don't get sick, but it greatly decreases the risk that you become ill (You can still carry a virus and not be symptomatic, and still be contagious)

It's funny to watch the left scream about "Settled Science(tm)!" with anthropogenic climate change (and therefore wanting to spend hundreds of billions of government dollars on policies of debatable efficacy), but when it comes to herd immunity, the quote-unquote settled science is conveniently tossed aside by the left because of something that $_CELEBRITY[$i] has said.

Or that Robert F. Kennedy has gone off the deep end ( Link, even though I am loath to link to Slate )

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/10/2015 at 12:42

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Thanks for the reply. It is not my intention to politicize this, though politicization is inevitable. And that's unfortunate, because it should not be a political issue, it should be a simple scientific issue of health, as well as concern for our fellow man. I'm not convinced that there should be a federal mandate for vaccination. We wiped out polio and measles without one. But frankly, I'm dismayed that there's even a discussion about vaccines in the first place. My grandmother survived the great flu epidemic of 1918-19, my mother survived the polio epidemic. Complacency, and perhaps selfishness, are the order of the day. And a healthy dose of ignorance.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 12:47

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I'm not sure if it's internal consistency or ironic tragedy that unlimited open-borders folks on the right and left have a strong overlap with the movement against vaccination. At least at Ellis Island people were usually checked or getting shots...

Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 14:18

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I'm going to disneyland in a month for my high school graduation present, I made my mom make sure I have my MMR vaccine, and luckily I do.

Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man > ttyymmnn 02/10/2015 at 14:26

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I know I just replied, but I'm gonna reply again, evidently when my mom was born, her mom had the german measles at the time or right before, and she (my mom) also still had her Measles vaccine. This anti-vaxxer thing is so stupid, its a simple fact of science, Vaccines don't give you diseases or autism and they keep you from getting diseases that kill a ton of people a year, I read that approximattely 170,000 people a year are killed by the measles, and it takes literally 15 seconds twice in your life to keep you from getting it by getting the measles shot.

ttyymmnn > Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man 02/10/2015 at 14:38

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There are none so blind as one who refuses to see.